Laser sights for spearguns

[Per]

Great story miles! Good thing he didn't bring home a baseball bat instead of a gun...

Tak - the sights work fine even though your eye is pretty far away - the angle issue is a problem though... and the price. Maybe I should pop by and ask them for an evaluation copy...? They claim it can sustain a depth of 25 m - good enough for the Baltic! Ah, well, fun idea anyway.

//Per

[Huan]

For me if you want to get technical , the thing to do would be to fit a small white LED into the muzzle of a gun and have a waterproof switch on the handle.
THis would allow you to illuminate whatever you wanted to see under overhangs/caves etc . it would also be a lot easier than a laser sight to make -no zeroing.
also the applications would interest IMHO a lot more people than laser sights.
I can shoot accurately up to the end of my shooting line with 1 or 2 wraps thats all the accuracy I need.
What I find a pain is to hold a torch and a speargun.

[paddythefrog]

hmmmmmmz indeed, can you get sniper scopes for spearguns too?
Honestly, if you need laser sighting to shoot a fish that's close you need to improve your aim, not look for ways to cheat

I suppose by 2010 we'll all have laser sights and sniper scopes on our spearguns.

[Alison]

Originally Posted by paddythefrog

I suppose by 2010 we'll all have laser sights and sniper scopes on our spearguns.

What?? You dont use them??
Does anyone remeber the gun in Beverly Hills cop 3?
On a serious note, I belive if you cant aim a gun without having to resort to aides then you shouldnt be holding the thing; after all the only time it would be of any use is on a stationary fish 3-4m away and if you cant hit that, well I think you need glasses or some practice! Right Shane

[Per]

In a way, I fully agree - poor skills should'nt be replaced by technical aids, but on the other hand we constantly strive for better equipment. Ruling sights out by default seems a bit harsh to me.

If nothing else, I think the idea is fun!

//Per

[takeshi]

I agree that it is a fun idea and that it is fun figuring out how to improve equipment and setup. Probably it will turn out that laser pointers are unpractical for whatever reason.
However if it turns out that a laser pointer does work, then it would be a sight just like any other. Looking down the rail or the side of the barrel is the the same thing, a way of finding out where the extended line of the gun is pointing. If adding any kind of sight to a gun would raise the percentage of good stoning hits I think that would be a good thing. I at least do not have a 100% head or spine stoning hit rate.

[Huan]

I am a firm believer of the KISS principle.
Keep It Simple , Stupid!
If you get so dependant on a battery powered device that shooting fish is too hard without it then a) you are missing the point of spearfishing and b) what happens when the batteries go flat?

[Alison]

Originally Posted by takeshi

If adding any kind of sight to a gun would raise the percentage of good stoning hits I think that would be a good thing. I at least do not have a 100% head or spine stoning hit rate.

I just wish I could achieve a 100% hit the fish rate,trouble with the little buggers is that they wont keep still.

Without a doubt a fun thing, it even crossed my mind in a curious way to but anything that could make it easier to catch fish in a sport that requires so much practice is unsporting to bring up that word that always stirs up a hornets nest. The really fun part of spearfishing is its back to basics approach, where do you stop? Remeber that Beverly Hills cop gun? It shot a net out of the front

[takeshi]

I have no idea what your point of spearfishing is. I wouldn't be missing my point of spearfishing at all. If the batteries go flat you just aim down the rail and get a slightly lower percentage of stoning hits.

[Per]

Honestly, we're not talking only GPS/no map/Really Big Jungle here... Running out of batteries isn't much of an issue to me.

I can appreciate the puritan view on spearing, and I probably wouldn't use optical or other aiming aids even if they were available. The musky waters of Scandinavia don't lend themselves that well for hunting anything further away than you can poke it with the gun anyways...

The question is (if there is one) - what is "good spearfishing"? Is it ethically sound to use aids? Where do you draw the line?

(Another dime spent)

//Per

[donmoore]

I bought a Russian underwater red laser for a speargun off E-bay a few years ago. Some of the dive shops were advertising them as well. Its power was way to weak to work underwater. I did some research back then and found the green lasers, like Eric was talking about, were several times more powerful. There was one made for a land gun that was waterproof, but waterproof doesn’t mean it would hold up at depth.

It would be interesting to see one that worked. Besides helping you aim, I wonder what the response would be from the fish. They are usually very curious about lights.
don

[FreediveSniper]

Heh heh, thats pretty good.
I have no doubt that James Bond would use a laser guided speargun, however Im going to stick to the basics, point and shoot.

[ajwaverider]

The way things are going here in the U.S I wouldn't put one on my gun(even though it would be usless) .People already freak out when they see me in my camo suit.

[Jersey Jim]

I agree also that red is useless at depth, but oply if you're relying on a source from the surface. Remember, you're bringing your own source of light down with you. There is no reason why 10 or so feet of distance between your light and the fish should be filtered. Now emitted power is another issue. If green lasers emit more intensity, then that would be the reason to go with green. Just my .02

Jim

[defofthecrown]

It's funny how quickly people will jump all over technology. I assume their all diving in woolen suits w/ wooden hand spears, duck fins, and non-equalizabile goggles. It's good to see 'retrosubs' group will be growing . B/C if you need Japanese neoprene, fiberglass fins, or a carbon fiber gun so help you...