Break-Away tip for pole spear

[Pinggene]

Wondering if anyone has tried a break-away tip for a pole spear. Some details as to what worked, & what did not would be appreciated.

I have an 11 yr old son who can't quite handle a speargun by himself yet, but does nicely with a pole spear. I would like him to be able to go after larger fish (Carp - 10 lbs - 30 lbs), but due to safety and making it an easier fight, I think a break-away tip would work best.

Thoughts?

Gene

[hteas]

I have an AB Biller breakaway on my Ray Odor. I've only speared one fish with it so far, but it worked OK. The spear is pretty heavy, so I am planning to use it for halibut and not much else
I have a Gat-Ku with breakaway on order, but don't have it yet. Probably won't get to use it till hawaii in January. I ordered it because it is a lot lighter and therefore faster, and I'm tired of losing fish with my Kawamoto 3-prong tip on a hand made spear. It's great if there is a rock behind the victim, but in open water fish have a tendency to get away : (

Howard

[sciencemike]

I only polespear not speargunning for me. I do it while freediving and scuba diving. I hunt mostly small 2 foot fish and the occasional halibut. I have all different tips i use, but my favorite is my JBL Breakaway tip. I try not to put it on unless im offshore at an island where we can get larger fish. Its a great tip but i hunt mosly in the rocky reef and am worried about damaging it too much. I never use paralyzer tips anymore only single and double floppers. And i have never used a slip tip on my pole, just a breakaway.

So the advantages:
1. Easy to fight the fish
2. Protects your polespear from damage or bending.

Disadvantages:
1. Difficult to extract fish from holes/crevices
2. Line can cut sides of fish
3. Can be a pain to use in grassy/kelpy areas where tip can snag and come off pole easily - lost a couple of great shots like that
4. A bit slower than regular tips
5. Easier to poke your hand on the tip when subduing the fish due to the fact that you cant stablilize the tip with the pole.

Im sure there are others as well. But i use this one.
http://www.leisurepro.com/Image/Prod...all/JBL823.jpg

[Pinggene]

Thank you for the replys. Has anyone ever made one?

Thanks.

Gene

[sciencemike]

That could be pretty tough, the friction has to be just right to keep the slip tip from slipping off when not in the fish and slipping off just after entry. I would love to see how it goes.

[Cheapfish]

I made one out of 5/16 inch roundstock and some 50lb leader wire. I drilled a hole into the back of the roundstock which slid about 1 inch deep on a shaft. I then sharpened the end that pierces the fish into a tricut tip and then drilled a hole almost 1/3 of the way down the "dart" and attached my leader wire. I used a rubber band to hold tension between the leader and the shaft which does a pretty good job of holding it on but easily slipping off after passing through a fish. Badabing Badaboom.!

[Adon]

Hello Cheapfish,
Could you post some pics of the spear tip?
I am thinking about making a pole as guns are illegal where I am.
Cheers,
adon

[kanakafari]

Howzit all,

The JBL slip-tip is a very good tip but instead of using the SS wire that comes with it, cut it off and replace it with a similar length of mono shooting line. This will lessen the likelihood of the breakaway cutting into the fish. Usually a 200-400lb mono will do more than suffice. Crimp both ends in the same fashion as the original and go get 'em.

In the case that you have aspirations of hunting larger than life game (if you can get close enough), then perhaps you might want to incorporate a "Manny" style knot to the band to attach a tagline.

To do so, replace the original band with a longer section of similar or slightly stronger band material, add your knot, and hook up your tagline.

This method will allow the fish to run in the case they get too feisty i.e halibut. Happy hunting

Note:
Do not throw away the original band material though. It can be cut it into pieces ad used for replacement retainer rings for your slip-tip or use them as speartip covers so you don't poke your eye out while not underwater.


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[ILDiver]

Sea Stinger, Pole Spears & Hawaiian Slings - ScubasWorld

I use this one, it works very well.