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New World Record

Last weekend, Czech freedivers created a new interesting Guinness record (sometimes called also a "Redl" among freedivers) in the number of divers breathing from a single regulator during an hour. It is a mixture of scuba and apnea.

The previous Guinness record of six persons held by another Czech team was beaten by a team of eight freedivers from Brno.

The record was done in the depth of 5m, the regulator was connected to twin 10 liters bottles filled to 250 bars. It was actually an hour long hypercapnic table with a single breath between apneas. They write that after the initial 10 minutes, the breathing rhythm stabilized on about 1 breath per minute for each.
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You may know some of the names of the participants:
  • Jarmila Slovenčíková
  • Mirek Svačina
  • Pavel Popelka
  • Petr Tanner
  • Roman Ondrůj
  • Vladimír Tichý
  • Vladimír Franc
  • Petr Vala
This record was done during a competitions with many other "redl" disciplines like for example backward swimming with fins, underwater text reading without a mask, hovering in limited space, etc. The competition is called Trygoniáda and was organized by the Trygon diving club in Brno, Czech Republic.

More information in Czech, and some more photos, can be found here:
AIDA CZ - freediving, nádechové potápìní
Centrum potápìní TRYGON BRNO
Freediving | SvÄ›tový rekord v dýchánÃ* z jedné automatiky | ADREX.CZ - ExtrémnÃ* sporty

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Re: New World Record

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What was inside tanks? I cannot clear read sticker but look like "OXYGEN".
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It was plain air. White tanks are used for air too.
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Re: New World Record

It is claimed that the Dutch have done this with 24 people http://forums.deeperblue.net/general...ld-record.html
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Re: New World Record

Not that interesting as a world record , how about this for an idea. I think you should do it like pass the parcel and play music in the background piped in underwater. It could be done at the SETT at 30 metres.

Every now again you could turn the gas off and watch one of them shoot to the surface and see if they burst. Now that would be worth watching. A proper Red1
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You could pump Helium into the mouthpiece for the last couple of breaths instead of air too and record the high pitched obscenity as they surface
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LOL. Good idea Pastor. Maybe someone with scientific expertise could work out if they took a breath of Helium at 4bar and held their breath if they could actually float out of the tank.

I have images of two dozen fat scubies floating out to sea at Gosport.

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It is claimed that the Dutch have done this with 24 people http://forums.deeperblue.net/general...ld-record.html
As I questioned there, it was likely done under different conditions - either in a shorter time, or with bigger air supply.

I find it rather interesting as a record - kind of a static variant of a dynamic relay. And I do not think it is as easy as it may look like - just try making a series of 1 minute apneas during 1 hour, taking always only a single breath between. I bet that many will give up after a few rounds - you get pretty hypercapnic.

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Sorry Trux, I wasn't trying to cast doubt, it the 24 man thing wasn't listed as a record then it probably wasn't for a reason
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Re: New World Record

I have done pranayama at 12:48:24 for over an hour, and even 14:56:28 for almost an hour.

At 12:48:24, that is one breath every 1'24", and at 14:56:28, it is one breath every 1'38". At 16:64:32, the max I managed was 32 minutes, which is one breath every 1'52". The yogis say that in order to levitate you need to do 20:80:40 for 100 reps (which takes 4 hours at one breath every 2'20"). Theos Bernard, the famous Englishman who studied yoga in India, describes in his book a series of pranayama exercises where he was taking one breath every 6 minutes for a long period of time.

I would tell the divers involved in the 'record' to hyperventilate as much as possible before starting, so the CO2 accumulation is damped.
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Yes, I am sure it is possible to do better, but that's exactly the point of such record attempts - creating a challenge for others who can then try beating it. So if there are eight or nine other freedivers in your club who can do as good breathing patterns as you, and you beat the record, I bet the current team won't take it as an offense

BTW, one breath each 6 minutes is really amazing. Did he tell what he was smoking? I wonder if we could get some real yogis to a freediving competition, to see where the limits are in comparable conditions.
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aaaahhhh, PADI will certainly protest that record thats breaking the golden rule of Scuba, never hold your breath , PADI will probably insist that record holders of this discipline all sign legal waivers and pay some extra money (somehow)
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I wonder if we could get some real yogis to a freediving competition, to see where the limits are in comparable conditions.
Hey, don't believe that stuff, Yogi bear is only a cartoon
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It was plain air. White tanks are used for air too.
This is clear of organizers presentation fault and will create serious doubt around scuba diving community. Even never the less of 5.2l per minute at the surface is not big deal for average freediver. Similar nobody will do STA record attempt with snorekel attached to the head of an athlete.
Is anybody ask you about color of tanks?
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This is clear of organizers presentation fault and will create serious doubt around scuba diving community. Even never the less of 5.2l per minute at the surface is not big deal for average freediver. Similar nobody will do STA record attempt with snorekel attached to the head of an athlete.
Is anybody ask you about color of tanks?
Well, I recommend that you contact Guinness and ask them to disqualify the record, because it was done with a tank of a color you do not like. Or better yet, find eight or more other freedivers and beat their record with a tank of color of your choice You are surely right it is not too difficult, that's finally what the participants told too, so the record will likely not stand for a long time.

Many freedivers use snorkel for preparation. It allows them breathing while having the face submerged, hence triggering a proper diving reflex. Some of the freedivers participating in the attempt, ranked on important freediving competitions, including winning some medals on world championships. Do you really think that having a snorkel attached to their mask makes their performances less respectable?
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