Cobra Mid Handle Pneumatic Spearguns.

[Gazz]

I FOUND the elusive Cobra Spearguns!!

They make a pneumatic midhandle model speargun called the COBRA!!
very much like the old Nemrod Mariner and the Techisub Jaguar.

Web page is: http://www.cobrasub.com.br/

Now the Question is how do i get these guns to Australia??
the web page is in portugese. I will send the maker a email.
Has anyone used these guns before?

[marginatus]

that's a brazilian company. If you need any help on translate from portuguese to english let me know.

Fernando

[Gazz]

Thanks Fernando,

Do you know of any dive companies that will post these spearguns overseas?

Gareth

[Asturven]

Gareth,

I used a lot those guns were I was living in Venezuela, they are good and very simple to mantain. The model Ataque is the bigger and more powerful.

But any modern pneumatic speargun has a better performance that those guys. We changed like 15 years ago to rear handle pneumatics and now upgraded with mamba systems.

The Cobras do not shoot as good as these other guns.

If i can help you with more information, just let me know.

Cheers

Ivan

[Gazz]

Thanks Ivan,

I have a seac sub asso 115 with a Mamba Kit, which is really good, but is too much power for tight spaces and hunting in areas with low visibility.

The Cobra looks ideal as it would have really great tracking, and i assume would have more than enough range, if i got the Ataque.

Ivan do you know if they are sold outside brazil?

What would the best way for me to get one be(i live in Australia)?

Gareth

[marginatus]

Gareth, sorry but i can't help you on that. this was the first time that i heard of this company or guns.

Fernando

[Asturven]

Gareth,

You have an email.

I know the guy who was the representative in Venezuela but he is not selling Cobra anymore.

I can help you with reparations and any technical issues but I do not know where to find them outside of Brazil.

I think that you will need to contact the factory directly.

Cheers

Ivan

[Fondueset]

Or pick up an old nemrod on ebay! - they are on there quite often.

[Billyboy]

Hi Gazz

I recently purchased a Cobra Sub pneumatic speargun at a swap meet in Toowoombe (Queensland) - so maybe they were imported into Australia. I've only ever used rubber powered guns before so know nothing about this one. The gun looks virtually unused. but the inlet valve was shot. I epoxied in a bicycle valve and pumped it up to 120 psi, but it doesn't appear to have much power at that pressure. Do you have any idea what pressure they should run at? It seems to hold its pressure OK, but I don't have a compressor to get any more pressure into it. I have the original pump but it won't pump through the bicycle valve. I doubt whether I'd get a new valve for it.

Cheers
Bill

[strangelove]

These guns used to be very popular in Brazil, I think they still are on the North East Brazil, but you need a good supply of spare parts, muzzle, piston and etc all the parts a very cheap.

These is one store in Rio Aquamar you could try.

[strangelove]

Check it out, 2.2 Reias is equal to 1 USD.


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[Ted Budion]

I don't know how I've missed this thread. I worked for Cobra Sub for seven years, from the late 80s to mid-90s. I was friend of the founder and his family.

Export-import was one of my jobs there. Our best customers abroad were Venezuela (via the former Venezuelan champ Claudio Scrosoppi) and, far behind, New Zealand, by ProDive-NZ. Few guns were also sold to a chap in Mackay, QLD, to a Panamian company and to Europe, via Cressi, in the late 60s-early 70s.

The company almost went bankrupt few years ago. It's barely keeping the head out of water now. Its domestic market share is less than 10% now. That's for a company that, at one point, was the largest diving equipment manufacturers in the Southern Hemisphere.

Contrary to my good Brazilian-Alaskan buddy Stangelove still thinks, even in the Northeast the Cobra airgun went out of favor. Up to 5 years, Cobra still ruled in our freshwater spearos, but we're seeing more and more rubber euroguns there too.

As for the factory working pressure, it depends on the model. But it's not as high as modern rear-handle airguns. The Ataque (57" overall length) was 18 bar = 17.8 ATM = 260 PSI. In competitions we used half of that. And for bigger fish hunting, sometimes 300 psi.

But these gun are considered obsolete today. They shoot 51" 8.6 mm diam. shafts. They were good when average fish was heavier and slow. That's why some people use in fresh water in Brazil.

[strangelove]

Ted

You are the man with all the answers, I have not being to the north east for the last 9 years, but back then they were really popular. As you mention before, I am maroon in Alaska ! I don't know what is going on in Brazil any more, I still have my cobra attact in my closet with my macro foca, they were retired back in 1993, I got tired of fixing and pumping it.

How was fishing in Chile ?

Fishing in Rio was good but we had a couple of weeks of really cold water (13 C).

[Ted Budion]

Strangelove,
This trend in the Brazil NE is recent. It consolidated when Cobra started to go under and a new domestic manufacturer started offering rubber guns with quality and components pair with the best European brands.

I still have my old trustworthy Cobra Ataques in my closet too. I haven't shot them since 1981. They're still working.

I forgot to post the Chile trip report on Deeperblue. Here's my post on Medfish Mediterranean Fishing :: Log in

[Billyboy]

Strangelove and Ted

Thanks - I really appreciate you replies. I've been onto the Aquamar web site and just need some help from a Portugese speaker to help place my order for the valve (have someone in mind). I don't think the Cobra will become my main gun, but a nice curiosity. How the hell do you get them up to 300 psi?

I've just come back from 2 weeks on the Great Barrier Reef (the Keppel Islands) where we get lots of coral trout around 3 to 5 kilos, as well as the occasional big cod. We generally use long, rubber powered guns with pretty heavy spears. Always the chance of getting a good mackeral as well. I think the Cobra may be good to have in the boat for the occassional crayfish we come across. Mine is called a "junior" which I guess suggests it's a beginners gun, but it seems pretty heavy duty compared to the modern stuff that's available. I doubt whether it's even been fired - the spearhead is like new.

Thanks again

Bill