Warmest 7mm

[kale]

I have a sporasub 7mil right now that is good but I am considering buying a second suit and I am wondering if anyone that has tried a few more suits than me can give some reccomendation for a very warm 7mil....I have heard Picasso Ghost is a warm suit. Does anyone know of a warmer one? Thank you,
Kale

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by kale

I have a sporasub 7mil right now that is good but I am considering buying a second suit and I am wondering if anyone that has tried a few more suits than me can give some reccomendation for a very warm 7mil....I have heard Picasso Ghost is a warm suit. Does anyone know of a warmer one? Thank you,
Kale

Hi Kale
I dived with my Imersion 7mm suit in cape town last night, the water was 9degC and i was toasty (except for my hands!)

[Whopperhead]

I use a 5mil Elios and dive in 30 degee (F) 0 Degree (C) - and my body is fine- it's my toes that gets cold - but not until a few hours.

[Gwaihir]

anybody got some tricks on not getting freezing toes ?
Will a monofin help ,since the toes are capsuled in ?
Why aren't toes capsuled in on bifins ? aka omer millennium.

[fjohnson]

Picasso Ghost.. off the shelf at least $450..
Eliossub.. tailor made to fit.. $350u.s... (mostly due to the bad euro to usd exchange) what's to figure?

[Marwan]

how can you move in a 7mm?? my winter wetsuit is 3.5mm and already its a hassle in wearing it

[sunfish]

If you wear one all the time, Marwan, you don't notice the restriction. The buoyancy change when you dive is the biggest hassle.

[Pastor]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir

anybody got some tricks on not getting freezing toes ?

Ask Elios to make you up some open cell socks with an outer seal to tuck under your suit bottoms. It worked for another member from Norway

[spaghetti]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir

Why aren't toes capsuled in on bifins ?

bifins footpockets are cut at the toes to give a way out for water. If they fill in with water there'll be smaller room for the feet and that'll hurt.
Bit of history: first open toe bifin was the Cressi Rondine in the late 40's, designed by Luigi Ferraro. Our modern rubbers give a better seal so water leaking has become a smaller problem, but go figure in the 40's, with that extra-hard tyre rubber that was the only one available.....

[Gwaihir]

Hmm still wondering if im gonna try sealing the opening on my omers
Thanx for the history lessen thoe

God call Pastor, but wouldnt I get the same effect just by turning my socks inside out,so that the opencell will be on the outside and get a waterlock against my suit.
Or just buy a pair of omers,they make that kind of socks,whit opencell on the outside,anyway I have tried turning them inside out- and I still freeze

Irritating getting out of the water after 30 minutes,just becouse of my toes are freezing,when the rest of the body is just fine.

[island_sands]

Originally Posted by Pastor

gosh you have lost weight

[Pastor]

Originally Posted by island_sands

gosh you have lost weight

Gained some hair too and strangely enough a Norwegian accent It's PosiedonSV and his suit but more importantly his warm socks. You know what they say about Norwegians with warm socks!

[kale]

Originally Posted by Whopperhead

I use a 5mil Elios and dive in 30 degee (F) 0 Degree (C) - and my body is fine- it's my toes that gets cold - but not until a few hours.

That is nuts! The coldest it gets here is about 46f. I don't know anyone who dives here in a five mil and stays warm for more than a couple hours. I'll look at the Elios. How old is your suit? Thanks,
Kale

[Whopperhead]

I got my Elios suit last April - the "econo" line - Open cell- We're probably diving Lake Michigan on New Years Day- should be in mid 30's I would think (heat Wave) The coldest I've been in so far was 29 degrees and was still fine on the body. Getting out on the other had is a different story- 8 degrees (f) air temp - does not help things.

[foxfish]

We have touched on this subject before - some people dont feel the cold like others & some people carry their own insulation!